tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1361014580076478425.post5288470514116033765..comments2022-04-30T05:44:38.153-05:00Comments on <a href="http://www.peguy.net">Cahiers Péguy</a>: Tradition and Modernityclairityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13138008687608851660noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1361014580076478425.post-69961633279948411612007-12-24T13:48:00.000-06:002007-12-24T13:48:00.000-06:00Patrick and Frederick: As one who is professionall...Patrick and Frederick: As one who is professionally involved in the arts, it is very moving to me to see your intense engagement with these questions. Bless you for sharing your journey with others. And Merry Christmas to all at Cahiers Peguy!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05591491360894739965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1361014580076478425.post-73046820548570997572007-12-21T16:16:00.000-06:002007-12-21T16:16:00.000-06:00Thank you Patrick!Your post is clear, simple, stro...Thank you Patrick!<BR/><BR/>Your post is clear, simple, strong. But I couldn't resist emphasizing the importance of what you said with my own rant. And like you, I'm facing my own preconceptions and presuppositions about beauty, about life, about Christ. What amazes me is the fact which is changing us and giving us this different perspective!Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01262662173303042998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1361014580076478425.post-19491606019457390262007-12-21T15:39:00.000-06:002007-12-21T15:39:00.000-06:00freder1ck, thanks for stating more clearly what I ...freder1ck, thanks for stating more clearly what I fumbled around with! This is it precisely!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1361014580076478425.post-22257893935997515222007-12-21T13:39:00.000-06:002007-12-21T13:39:00.000-06:00Thanks for this article, Partrick. I'm reading it ...Thanks for this article, Partrick. I'm reading it in complement with the Wilken article (see my post, <A HREF="http://cl-bloggers.blogspot.com/2007/12/christian-culture-reborn.html" REL="nofollow">Christian culture reborn</A> <BR/><BR/>The iconoclast heresy is not just about art, but about the incarnation. It's always a terrible shock that the Word becomes flesh not only long ago, but here and now - in our contemporary human circumstances. Caravaggio, a sinner, was moved by Christ present and he expressed this boldly in his paintings. And pious Catholics have yet to forgive me for this terrible offense to their sense of decorum.<BR/><BR/>We are modern. We are abstracted. We are alienated. This is our modern circumstances. Can the Word become flesh now among us? Or must we escape modern paganism to the glorious Roman paganism in order to hear the announcement of the angel Gabriel to Mary?<BR/><BR/>Wilken notes in his article the first move of Christ becoming flesh in culture: Christians discovered a deeper significance in signs that were used in the culture. <BR/><BR/>I also think of the novel <I>I Am Asher Lev.</I> Only Christ's death could offer a point of view that could make sense of 20th Century domestic anguish in Queens, NY. The human cry is alive in every age. If many of the illustrations are tentative or failed, so what? Christ's presence is not determined by our successes and accomplishments. And those Christians who would turn away from the human needs of our age as expressed in contemporary art may find themselves turning away from the sufferings of Christ in our midst...Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01262662173303042998noreply@blogger.com